Game Date: 11/30/2017
Signings:
Seattle: 1B Jose Guzman, 2 years/$1.75m
Maui: LF Alfonso Fernandez 1 year/$520k
Cleveland: 3B Ronald Quijada 4 years/$76m
Please make sure to have your rosters updated and your Rule V draft picks in for the next sim on Thursday night.
UPDATE: I advanced the game to 12/1 and re-uploaded. If you downloaded the game before 1:15 AM EST, please re-download the game.
I think you need to advance the game one day to 12/1 in order for us to have the Rule 5 draft screen appear, Zev.
ReplyDeleteAnd, damn my vacation. I was bidding on Quijada and didn't get a chance to outbid Jeremy for him.
Well, he was my #2 objectve in this offseason, so I would not have laid down quickly, but I am glad you could not put in a counter offer :)
ReplyDeleteThere are still a good number of FA out there so it will be interesting to see where all the cards fall.
As tempting as it is, we all need to agree to NOT select Quijada and Dale Beene, both exposed in the draft list (because they haven't been added to their new teams's 40-man rosters).
ReplyDeleteAgreed about Quijada and Beene - but why is Floyd Crown available? Did everyone get the word that we were about up for the Rule 5 draft?
ReplyDeleteI assume players can still be moved onto 40-man rosters to protect them from the Rule 5 draft, right?
ReplyDeleteNo, Mack, it's too late.
ReplyDeleteAre you sure about that? I seem to recall from the past that you could still add players to the 40-man roster on 12/1.
ReplyDeleteAt the very worst, I could complile each owner's draft list, cross off players who were added to 40-man rosters and run the draft manually.
Zev
This happened last year with my SP Cooper, who I tried to protect in the Rule 5 sim and he ended up being awarded to Michael.
ReplyDeleteThat's not what I understood. And, that seems inconsistent with Zev's post above that says, "Please make sure to have your rosters updated." To me, that means moves can still be made. But, I don't have any players that I want to protect (outside of my recent FA signing 1B J. Guzman) so I don't have a big dog in the fight.
ReplyDeleteBut, I think it would be unfair to others (Saskatoon, Danville, etc.) to go forward based on what has been said. At best, people had about 12 hours to make their important roster moves.
Finally, if we're going with the rule that people had their chance last sim and rosters are locked so tough luck, then Beene should be available. He signed before this sim and Paul had a chance to protect him. The only three who should be off the table are the ones who signed this sim (Guzman, Fernandez, and Quijada).
I was responding to Michael, and Zev and Matt jumped in too quickly.
ReplyDeleteIf we wanted to give teams a better chance to protect players, one option would be to have everyone upload roster moves by Thursday, Zev could download them and upload a new league file, and we could do the draft Friday. Just a suggestion.
ReplyDeleteActually, this one's my fault.
ReplyDeleteI advanced the game to 11/30, so as to give people a chance to adjust their rosters. I also (mistakenly) thought that you could submit your draft choices then as well.
Michael pointed out to me that the draft screen is unavailable until 12/1. So, rather than delay the game for another day, I updated the game to 12/1, with the (apparently mistaken understanding according to Matt) that players could still be protected on 12/1 and that if an owner drafted a player who was on a 40-man roster, the pick would just be skipped. I could have sworn that that was the way it worked in previous seasons.
In any event, I can still run the draft manually, making sure to skip anyone protected on a 40-man roster.
Zev
Just to make sure that my previous comment is not misunderstood, here is my best recollection of what happened last year. I moved SP Cooper to my 40-man roster on 12/1 (the day of the Rule 5 draft). Michael tried to draft him, but the game did not allow the move because I had put him on my 40-man. My recollection is that Michael then raised the issue with Zev to ask why the player was not drafted, and Zev awarded Cooper to Michael. I did not argue with the decision because I assumed the explanation must have been that rosters were locked on the day of the Rule 5 draft. That seems to be the same situation we are in right now. That does not affect Mack's point (which is valid, in my view) that owners were not given much notice of the need to protect their players this year.
ReplyDeleteOK well I will admit that I goofed on Beene. I did send some updates before last night, and forgot to put him on my 40 man. I certainly wasn't thinking that I had another sim to move him to my 40 man. So, I'd be willing to accept that he's up for drafting, not that I'm all that worried since anyone else who wanted him could have bid for him in FA!
ReplyDeleteBut I do definitely agree that there wasn't enough notice. I think it's totally unfair if Crown is left available, and probably several of Danville's prospects really should have been protected, but that's not so cut and dry.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteJust re-submit your upload with the other players you want protected on your 40 man roster. I'll make sure they don't get drafted by running the draft manually.
Zev
I don't know, guys. The only thing Zev did "wrong" was giving relatively short notice that the 40-man rosters needed to be locked before last night's sim. It's not his responsibility to remind you to mind your rosters, except, of course, when the season starts and each team's needs to be down to 25-men.
ReplyDeleteWe've done the Rule 5 draft numerous times before. Everyone should know that players need to be protected on the 40-man rosters. Owners shouldn't fall back on Zev's forgetfulness to remind them to absolve their own failure to protect their prospects.
If you have a player on the available player list whom you didn't want there, then you should've protected him before now.
Michael:
ReplyDeleteI'm not arguing that we shouldn't know how this works - in fact I'll freely admit I screwed up with Beene, who's the only one I should have protected that I didn't. I remember looking at all the scrubs in my system who were eligible, saying who'd want them, and moving only one player to my 40-man. I forgot to look at my DFA list which is why I didn't put Beene on.
My point is more what you said at the start of your post - it appears there wasn't enough notice, as certainly Saskatoon (and possibly Danville) had players that by any reasonable definition should be protected.
Crown was a huge part of the Frison trade, and a ML starter last year - it just strikes me as very wrong to have him be eligible.
Paul: And my point is in the first paragraph of my last post... "It's not his responsibility to remind you to mind your rosters, except, of course, when the season starts and each team's needs to be down to 25-men."
ReplyDeleteYes, you screwed up with Beene, as did Danville and Saskatoon. I also was active in both free agency and with a major trade of my own, but I didn't leave my acquired players unprotected.
If we are going to give people a second chance this year, then shouldn't I get Cooper back? ;)
ReplyDeleteI'm always open for trade talk, Matt. :)
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